Shimano 50 2speds are the best value! Capt. Dom is right on. Shimano has improved these reels and lowered the price! I'm getting readt to purchase a pair of the new ones, make sure you get the new ones( nothing wrong with the old ones) thye have the new spool + other improvements. Lots of opinions on what to fill them with but 80lb. braid with a 50-80lb. mono topshot should do it. Catch 'em up and good luck.