Rigging Big Wood for Big Fish Aussie Style

Reaux · 10-05-2007, 02:53 PM

I’ve been fascinated of late by some of the wild Australian fishing, with spinners no less, for GT, Dog Toothed Tuna, Wahoo, and even Marlin. Not that I’ll ever make it down there. At any rate, during my internet cruising I came across this ‘new’ style of rigging the large stick baits the Aussies use.

Here goes:

Tail hook => 9/0 Owner Jobu to a 11/0 Owner split ring (300lbs) to a Owner Crane swivel (don’t know what size) to the lure.

Belly hooks => Two (2) 11/0 Owner SJ – 41 Hooks arranged back to back on a 10/0 or 11/0 Owner split ring attached to the belly swivel.

The lure is 250mm or about ten inches long.

I don’t know where to get the SJ-41 hooks here in the US. Owner America doesn’t list them however Owner Australia does. Link to the best source I’ve found in Australia provided below.

To see a video of how they rig them you can go here:
http://www.nomadsportfishing.com.au/..._shop_main.htm

The prices are in $AU = .88 U$D and are outrageous. Better prices and the SJ-41 hooks can be found here:
http://www.bluewater.net.au/catalog/...roducts_id=222

Interesting setup with the belly hooks, I think I’ll swap our some belly trebles and try two back to back singles instead.

Ought to work just perfectly on some of those big lures you make Jason.

Bill

P7050325.jpg

JayR · 10-06-2007, 07:53 AM

That's quite interesting Bill. Thanks for posting it!

I'm working on a couple lures where that set-up might prove to be the ticket.

How things in the fossil world? Haven't seen you posting as of late.

The CA sealing turned out to be too messy for any production runs but I've found another sealer that is quick to cure and cleans up with the least offensive of thinners.

Been fishing?

Jason

Reaux · 10-07-2007, 01:55 PM

Hi Jason,

Yeah, haven't posted much of late. Sometimes work and vacations keep you computer free. August I spent in Nei Mongol (Inner Mongolia) looking for fossils, we did find some in the size range we're interested in. Of course they are still in China and I won't know exactly what we got until they send them to us. More stories about that latter. First two days were brutal. We had to partcipate in, as guests of honor, four banquets. Serious toasting went on, which translates to 'bottoms up' on each toast @ 90 percent alcohol. Got major drunk four times in less than 48 hours.

Swaped out trebles on some of the plugs you sent to me unfinished (that I had CA sealed , painted, and rigged) with VMC 5/0 Siwash direct to the belly swivel and I like the look a lot.

I'm on a tight leash at work as my colleague of thirty five years retired at the end of August and until we get a new Curatorial Associate I'm pulling double duty - his job and mine. But, I did wrangle some time off for the first week in November to fish out of Harkers Island NC. I hear that is the peak of the False Albacore run there with Albies weighing up to twenty pounds commonly caught and up to 20 or so fish per angler per day. If the seas are calm we'll run off shore to the Gulf Stream where I'll try trolling some of your plugs. What speed do you normally troll them at?

best,

Bill

JayR · 10-07-2007, 07:51 PM

Wish I had seen this method before putting hooks on my spoocolossus.
10 inches and 9 ounces

Reaux · 10-09-2007, 04:39 PM

Remember these? The big one you gave is over 9 oz. The one on the right is rigged with the two Siwash hooks back to back - until I can get the fancy Owner hooks. You know, I was thinking, if one didn't like the two hooks swinging apart one could tether them with a single strand of copper wire taken from ,say, an extenson cord. When a fish hits it would come apart.

Bill

JayR · 10-09-2007, 05:11 PM

I like them!!!! Paint looks real nice.

Are they all cedar? I can't recall what I gave you.

That big 9 ounce one.... is it maple? If so, you may be disappointed in the way it swims. I was. No where near as nice as the cedar.

I've trolled them just once but I don't recall how fast we were going. I do remember that at a higher speed it starts to swim like a bunker spoon. Big wide sweeps.

I've mostly casted them to the rocks from the boat and did well with a slow retrieve. Nothing bigger than 35 pounds yet. Hopefully I'll connect with something big soon.

Test swam the spook and I really like it. Can't wait to see what it does in big water.

REDNECK · 10-10-2007, 07:08 AM

RI Popper · 10-10-2007, 09:30 AM

That video was very cool the way he rigged the rear hook off a swivel is the same way I rig my larger tuna swimmers. The idea of double heavy hooks in the belly is interesting??

Jay that is a beaustiful SPOOOOOOOOKus maximus ;)

Armand

Reaux · 10-10-2007, 11:35 AM

[quote=JayR;36140]I like them!!!! Paint looks real nice.

Are they all cedar? I can't recall what I gave you.

That big 9 ounce one.... is it maple? If so, you may be disappointed in the way it swims. I was. No where near as nice as the cedar.

Hi Jay,

Everything was cedar except the big one. The big one swims with a slow wiggle waggle. I can cast it, oh so carefully on a 1084 - 2, maybe thirty or forty yards. Haven't had it in the salt yet, and have no intention of tossing it it'll be trolled.

I know you've given up tail wraps. Have you gone to the Bluewater site and blown up pictures of their lures? If not go here: http://www.bluewater.net.au/catalog/...oducts_id=1689
and blow up the picture, look at how they did the tail wraps - is that done by hand or have they figured out how to mechanically do the tail wrap? Also interesting is the little cone thingy that butts up against the back of the rear of the lure. I'll find out soon cause I ordered a couple just to see.

Bill

JayR · 10-10-2007, 11:45 AM

Wow Bill, that looks interesting. I'll bet that cone is to protect the lure during the tail wrap operation. I would like to know how they accomplish that.

Please post your observations once received and inspected.

Jason

10-05-2007, 02:53 PM	#1
Reaux NBS Member User Gallery Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cambridge MA Posts: 51	Rigging Big Wood for Big Fish Aussie Style I’ve been fascinated of late by some of the wild Australian fishing, with spinners no less, for GT, Dog Toothed Tuna, Wahoo, and even Marlin. Not that I’ll ever make it down there. At any rate, during my internet cruising I came across this ‘new’ style of rigging the large stick baits the Aussies use. Here goes: Tail hook => 9/0 Owner Jobu to a 11/0 Owner split ring (300lbs) to a Owner Crane swivel (don’t know what size) to the lure. Belly hooks => Two (2) 11/0 Owner SJ – 41 Hooks arranged back to back on a 10/0 or 11/0 Owner split ring attached to the belly swivel. The lure is 250mm or about ten inches long. I don’t know where to get the SJ-41 hooks here in the US. Owner America doesn’t list them however Owner Australia does. Link to the best source I’ve found in Australia provided below. To see a video of how they rig them you can go here: http://www.nomadsportfishing.com.au/..._shop_main.htm The prices are in $AU = .88 U$D and are outrageous. Better prices and the SJ-41 hooks can be found here: http://www.bluewater.net.au/catalog/...roducts_id=222 Interesting setup with the belly hooks, I think I’ll swap our some belly trebles and try two back to back singles instead. Ought to work just perfectly on some of those big lures you make Jason. Bill P7050325.jpg __________________ Reaux Last edited by Possum; 10-06-2007 at 08:18 PM.

10-06-2007, 07:53 AM	#2
JayR NBS Member User Gallery Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bikini Bottom Posts: 836	That's quite interesting Bill. Thanks for posting it! I'm working on a couple lures where that set-up might prove to be the ticket. How things in the fossil world? Haven't seen you posting as of late. The CA sealing turned out to be too messy for any production runs but I've found another sealer that is quick to cure and cleans up with the least offensive of thinners. Been fishing? Jason __________________ I really don't care what you have to say about me, just as long as you mention my name

10-07-2007, 01:55 PM	#3
Reaux NBS Member User Gallery Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cambridge MA Posts: 51	Hi Jason, Yeah, haven't posted much of late. Sometimes work and vacations keep you computer free. August I spent in Nei Mongol (Inner Mongolia) looking for fossils, we did find some in the size range we're interested in. Of course they are still in China and I won't know exactly what we got until they send them to us. More stories about that latter. First two days were brutal. We had to partcipate in, as guests of honor, four banquets. Serious toasting went on, which translates to 'bottoms up' on each toast @ 90 percent alcohol. Got major drunk four times in less than 48 hours. Swaped out trebles on some of the plugs you sent to me unfinished (that I had CA sealed , painted, and rigged) with VMC 5/0 Siwash direct to the belly swivel and I like the look a lot. I'm on a tight leash at work as my colleague of thirty five years retired at the end of August and until we get a new Curatorial Associate I'm pulling double duty - his job and mine. But, I did wrangle some time off for the first week in November to fish out of Harkers Island NC. I hear that is the peak of the False Albacore run there with Albies weighing up to twenty pounds commonly caught and up to 20 or so fish per angler per day. If the seas are calm we'll run off shore to the Gulf Stream where I'll try trolling some of your plugs. What speed do you normally troll them at? best, Bill __________________ Reaux

10-07-2007, 07:51 PM	#4
JayR NBS Member User Gallery Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bikini Bottom Posts: 836	Wish I had seen this method before putting hooks on my spoocolossus. 10 inches and 9 ounces __________________ I really don't care what you have to say about me, just as long as you mention my name

10-09-2007, 05:11 PM	#6
JayR NBS Member User Gallery Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bikini Bottom Posts: 836	I like them!!!! Paint looks real nice. Are they all cedar? I can't recall what I gave you. That big 9 ounce one.... is it maple? If so, you may be disappointed in the way it swims. I was. No where near as nice as the cedar. I've trolled them just once but I don't recall how fast we were going. I do remember that at a higher speed it starts to swim like a bunker spoon. Big wide sweeps. I've mostly casted them to the rocks from the boat and did well with a slow retrieve. Nothing bigger than 35 pounds yet. Hopefully I'll connect with something big soon. Test swam the spook and I really like it. Can't wait to see what it does in big water. __________________ I really don't care what you have to say about me, just as long as you mention my name

10-10-2007, 07:08 AM	#7
REDNECK User Gallery Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cape cod Posts: 694	__________________ http://redneckplugs.com/

10-10-2007, 09:30 AM	#8
RI Popper User Gallery Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: www.atlanticoffshorelures.com Posts: 1,137	That video was very cool the way he rigged the rear hook off a swivel is the same way I rig my larger tuna swimmers. The idea of double heavy hooks in the belly is interesting?? Jay that is a beaustiful SPOOOOOOOOKus maximus ;) Armand __________________ "Fish are a gift from God, by way of a good Lure" www.atlanticoffshorelures.com

10-10-2007, 11:35 AM	#9
Reaux NBS Member User Gallery Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cambridge MA Posts: 51	[quote=JayR;36140]I like them!!!! Paint looks real nice. Are they all cedar? I can't recall what I gave you. That big 9 ounce one.... is it maple? If so, you may be disappointed in the way it swims. I was. No where near as nice as the cedar. Hi Jay, Everything was cedar except the big one. The big one swims with a slow wiggle waggle. I can cast it, oh so carefully on a 1084 - 2, maybe thirty or forty yards. Haven't had it in the salt yet, and have no intention of tossing it it'll be trolled. I know you've given up tail wraps. Have you gone to the Bluewater site and blown up pictures of their lures? If not go here: http://www.bluewater.net.au/catalog/...oducts_id=1689 and blow up the picture, look at how they did the tail wraps - is that done by hand or have they figured out how to mechanically do the tail wrap? Also interesting is the little cone thingy that butts up against the back of the rear of the lure. I'll find out soon cause I ordered a couple just to see. Bill __________________ Reaux

10-10-2007, 11:45 AM	#10
JayR NBS Member User Gallery Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bikini Bottom Posts: 836	Wow Bill, that looks interesting. I'll bet that cone is to protect the lure during the tail wrap operation. I would like to know how they accomplish that. Please post your observations once received and inspected. Jason __________________ I really don't care what you have to say about me, just as long as you mention my name

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