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markp860

Have any of you guys had any experience with Owner Jobu Big game hooks?? Description from Owners website to follow.....

Ideal for trolling and Chunking, these hooks are built to tackle the biggest meanest fish in any ocean. Big game trolling enthusiasts will find these hooks ideal for custom rigging large baits and skirted lures. Those targeting huge tuna can rig them with big chunk baits. Features include an extra-heavy, XXX-strong forged shank, a deep throat bend, Cutting Point® and anti-corrosion black chrome finish

We are thinking of using these hooks on all of our offshore trolling rigs. Last year we lost a lot of fish and I think it may have been caused by dull hooks. Tons of knockdowns but the hook did not seem to stick. These hooks from what I have heard are very sharp and hold their edge for a long time. But 4 size 8/0 hooks have a msrp of 18.00 which is quite pricey. I have seen them considerably cheaper but if you guys have any suggestions for a bulk buy of say 50 hooks let me know.

**** Edit***** Also if you guys have no experience with these hooks please share what kind of hooks you have had good success with. My mind is not dead set on these hooks although I am leaning toward them, since I hear they really hold their edge season after season.

jahootie

whats a lost fish worth???
i use them on big lures, squid bars, pin rigs.
there hard to hide hook on small feathers.
great hook worth the investment
owner makes a great product
do it. you wont regret IT , i promise


and if you can buy them in bulk save a ton of money
try calling the hook up and talk to eric, sure he will set you strait



JA-HOOTIE

markp860

Jahootie,

Thanks for the reply I agree with spending the money after all the time money effort to get out there it sucks to lose any fish. Glad to hear you have had success with them as well what size do you generally use the 8/0? Its almost time to go through the offshore stuff and hooks we decided will def be changed this winter.

Thanks again for the reply

jahootie

I USE 8 AND 9 CANT GO WRONG EITHER WAY





JA-HOOTIE

Seaworm1

Mustad also makes some killer hooks that are more suited for use with trolled baits #'s 7691, 7699, 7698, I use that type in all my hook baits for the most part with no complaints, I think they are cheaper than Jobu's

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Scup

I do not do blue water stuff, but there is no excuse to lose fish because of dull hooks. Any hook can get dull but it only takes a few seconds to sharpen it up properly. I always assumed there is not a fisherman out there that does not know how to properly sharpen a hook but perhaps I could be wrong about this. My method of sharpening a hook is quite simple. If a hook is sharp to begin with and I wish to put that little extra hone on it, I use a small fine ceramic stone on it. If the hook is really dull, then I use a diamond or medium abrasive stone to remove material quickly and then finish it up with a fine ceramic stone. It seems everyone has their own way of sharpening a hook but the error made by many beginners is trying to sharpen the point such that it appears as a round cone. The cross section of the point should resembled a triangle. I always sharpen with a stroke into the point. This is similar to sharpening a knife in that you always stroke the blade into the stone such that it would appear that you are trying to cut into the stone. A really sharp hook does appeared to be sticky if you run it over your fingernail or arm as it does want to dig in. If this procedure takes you more than 10 seconds, then you are probably doing something wrong. Hooks such as Mustard or Owner are made with a very decent steel and will hold their edge very well. If you use hooks made with a poor grade of steel, then all sorts of problems can appear. The hook can straighten out if it not hardened properly, snap if not tempered correctly, or fail to hold an edge. If any of the above happens, change your brand of hooks.

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JAY C

Owner Jobu's are great trolling hooks - we use them on most of our stingers.

They are expensive, but they will probably increase your hook-up ratio. One thing to be aware of is you cannot sharpen them. They have a needle point that once its dull, it's done. They take a while to dull out, but they are that japanese steel that rusts, so don't plan on getting a whole season out of them.

As for size - What size to use depends on what you have for hookbaits. Definately not one size fits all.
--For example - I use 10/0 Jobu in the 13" squid stinger. Fits and hooks perfectly.

Good luck.

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Scup

Jay, it seems to me you are implying that the steel used in Owner hooks from Japan can rust. I believe you, since some of the finest hooks from anywhere can made with a very high quality steel that can rust, even Mustard hooks (stainless steel excepted.) I never had a problem in sharpening any hook, no matter what type of steel it is made out or its condition, including mildly rusted hooks. There is a time when a hook should be tossed out, as well as a knife, since sooner or later sharpening will remove enough material such that the hook has reached the end of its useful life. Since you are going to junk your dull Owner hooks anyway, drop them in an envelope and send a couple of them to me. I will sharpen them for you (for free) and send them back to you. Maybe I am missing something here, but I cannot believe I could not put a point on your used quality hooks that you would not be proud of. If I wrong, I would like to know about it. Shoot me an email for my address.

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JAY C

Scup - thanks for the offer, that's very generous.

It's not a matter of the material that the hook is made from - its the hook's design that makes it impossible to sharpen.

The Jobu has a needle on the tip that comes down into 3 separate cutting points. It will penetrate anything - that's why it will increase the hook-ups (you just don't miss fish that crash) but there really isn't a good way to sharpen them.

I'll send you a couple if you want to mess around with them - it would save me some cash if you can figuere it out.

markp860

Thanks for the input guys please keep it coming.... Scup the problem was the hooks just did not hold an edge. Very interesting that the Jobu cannot be sharpened. Not lasting a season due to corrosion kinda bites. Has anyone tried that rustloc tape that act like an anode?