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Old 10-06-2006, 06:13 PM   #21
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Latest info2006 Review of Summer Flounder Biological Referen

Hi,

This is the latest info that was posted on a Noreast thread. Where it will go I have no idea.

2006 Review of Summer Flounder Biological Reference Points


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In September 2006, the NOAA Fisheries Service Office of Science & Technology convened an additional review of biological reference points for summer flounder to ensure that the 2007 quota for the fishery is based on the best possible information. Reviewers met in mid-September, and reported their findings at the end of that month.

The review made no change in the current status of the summer flounder stock. It is not overfished, but only about half-way to its rebuilt size. The review confirmed that fishing rates must be substantially lowered in the next few years to provide at least a 50% chance of rebuilding by 2010.

The reviewers recommended several adjustments in the assessment. The most important of these are that the stock condition be assessed using spawning stock biomass, rather than total stock biomass as in the past; and several changes in how the weight of fish not yet Age 1 are measured and incorporated into the total picture for the population.

These revisions result in a fishing rate that ends overfishing and rebuilds the stock by 2010 that is higher (F=0.15) than the one calculated in the 2006 assessment (F=0.099)

The review also acknowledges retrospective patterns in the assessment. For the most recent year(s), the assessment consistently underestimates F by 34% (thus overfishing appears to have continued), and overestimates the biomass (by 12%) and recruitment (by 4%). The reviewers made no recommendation on how to adjust the analysis for this pattern, but note that it should be taken into account when setting management targets.

Using the revised estimate for a fishing rate (F=0.15) that will provide an adequate rate of rebuilding by 2010, a 2007 quota of 12.983 million pounds has a 75% probability of achieving that rate, and a quota of 14.156 million pounds, a 50% probability of doing so.


REVIEW

Summer Flounder Biological Reference Point Update for 2006

September 14-15, 2006, 8:30 AM.
Stephen Clark Conference Room
NEFSC, 166 Water St., Woods Hole, MA 02543

Reviewers

Dr. Richard Methot, NMFS Office of Science & Technology (Chair)
Dr. Owen Hamel, NMFS Northwest Fisheries Science Center
Dr. Joseph Powers, Louisiana State University

Review Documents

Terms of Reference
The August 10 Summer Flounder Biological Reference Point Update for 2006


Reviewers' reports
Dr. Owen Hamel
Dr. Richard Methot (Chair's report)
Dr. Joseph E. Powers


Revised Reference Point Document
The October 4 Summer Flounder Biological Reference Point Update for 2006, incorporating reviewer's recommendations

Background documents
The summer flounder chronicles: Science, politics, and litigation, 1975?2000
CRD 06-17 Stock assessment of summer flounder for 2006
CRD 05-10 41st Northeast Regional Stock Assessment Workshop (41st SAW) 41st SAW Assessment Summary Report
CRD 05-14 41st Northeast Regional Stock Assessment Workshop (41st SAW) 41st SAW Assessment Report
Comparison of 2006 assessment results and reviewer?s update



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Old 10-16-2006, 09:49 PM   #22
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Hi,

It looks like all this is in limbo till after the elections. At least by then we will know who the players are.

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Hi Flukers,

I have read a few new articles regarding what is going to happen in 2007 with our fluke.

The best I can report is that the waters get murkier all the time. I think my problem is that in some ways I am too close to the scene. I have just a bit too much info and have no idea how much of it is accurate. It is still the same old story. Too much in fighting and not cooperating with each other. Some where along the line I hope solutions are chosen that does the right thing for all concerned, the fish, the comms and the recs.

This fighting between the recs and comms has to stop. I don't know if it would work but I feel it is time for the proper commission to sit the recs and comms down and come up with a new playing field equitable to both sides based on the fish populations in 2007, the directions the populations are going and the numbers of p[layerson both sides. I realize this would require the Wisdom of Solomon.

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I realize this would require the Wisdom of Solomon.
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Seems easy then....cut it in half. 1/2 comm. 1/2 rec ;)

Seriously I don't trust any data or gathering of data for the rec guys catch.ottytrain5:
And their goal needs serious adjustment as in setting any goal, the first rule is it MUST be attainable.
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