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Old 05-17-2007, 08:43 AM   #1
 
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If any Captain would like to share some info about wind and waves .I had gone out yesterday with aSW 15-20 with gusts up to 25 on an incoming tide. The water was flat well 1-2 foot rollers no chop.NOAA had posted a small craft for LIS .Whats up with that ? If someone could explain what actually happens with the different tides and wind direction.

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Old 05-17-2007, 10:21 AM   #2
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I see different waters all over the Sound during winds and can’t figure it out. Mon and Tuesday I was up at Barn. 30mph winds plus. I didn’t have any trouble at all. Same situation in the middle of the state at the Housy, forget it. Why is it mellower at the mouth of the ocean than in the middle of the state? I know Fishers is out there but I wouldn’t think that would be enough. I was wondering whether the bottom depth and structure had to do with it.
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Old 05-17-2007, 08:48 PM   #3
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Not to bail on you but I would highly recommend you get copy of Eldrige Tide Book and a must have copy of Chapman's Book on Seamanship. YOu will learn more from these than I could possible write about. There is no simple anser due to so many forces at work while at sea. Wind, Tide stage, Lunar stage, bottom contour...it's combinations that drive you.

Here's a couple of links that should help give you a picture
http://www.pdfamily.com/weather/meso/neast.htm
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/marine/zone/east/boxmz.htm
http://www.pdfamily.com/weather/buoy/NEbuoy.php

This should help get you started...later look up wave period and or dwell and you will see that 6-9's with a long dwell or periios are cool and 3-5 with a short one are not

I really can't comment on the excellent work you will find in the above mentioned books.

Most importantly always remember big wind can bring bad things so remember:
It's all fun and games until someone gets poked in the eye
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Thanks Capt., I'll check with my brother he took a course on seamanship a while back he may have those books.
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:26 PM   #5
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Very good info.

thank you
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:13 PM   #6
 
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Excellent advice, Capt. Vin

The Chapman book is indispensible for any boater to have and study. The Eldridge will give you comprehensive tidal info for the area covered, including tide phases, current predictions, etc.

Two other books which you may find helpful are Bowditch, an excellent all around seamanship and full coverage book, as well as the Merchant Seamans Manual.

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Old 05-18-2007, 09:46 PM   #7
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Sea Conditions

"Local Knowledge" is my favorite term in boating. Some areas have calm water in fairly strong winds depending on the configuration of the the land mass in the area and current strength. My general rule is tide (or current in the case of river mouth) against the wind is a nightmare. Tide with the wind is normally always better. My local harbor is a nightmare in a South or SW wind. The next harbor over is more protected and you can sneak out in the same wind that is a "no go" from the other port. (Of course I'm not talking about venturing out very far). Jack
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