76SeaCraft18

It would have to be someone thats doesn't already have ties to politics. I really think its too late to do any thing with the illegals that are already here but we absolutly have to stop more from entering and soon. The criminals that are arrested should be deported, not held held in our jails and not released back into society, which happens in Florida on a daily basis. Ther is really no "politically correct" way to deal with the ones that are already here. Maybe its time to not be "political correct" in many aspects of our society.

flounderpounder

excellent post possum and as I always say round em up and ship em home, no questions asked. Just because someone was born in a country that is not as nice as the US doesn't entitle them to reap all the benefits of legal citizens of our country. if you are in this country ILLEGALLY then you are breaking the law and you should get the hell out !!!!!

Bryan A.

Saw this on the Bertram 31 website. Interesting Parody.

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I think we have a potential candidate who has the right ideas on this topic... and one who has the potential to pull our Nation out of the mess we're in.

I just posted this on the Bliz Blog, but thought it would be a great topic to move over... I also set up a poll on the thread in the Bliz Blog. Here is my post...

I was recently sent a link to an interview from a friend outside the US on Mike Huckabee, and viewed this 1hr interview with Charlie Rose. If word gets out about this candidate on time, I strongly believe that Mike Huckabee may be a potential for the Republican nomination. Check out the link, and try to watch the interview to it's entirety... Huckabee seems to have a clear vision for our country. The interviewer threw some really tough questions at this Arkansas Governor, and I was very impressed with his reasoned responses and his candor... I thought it was a tough interview due to the barrage of potential candidacy breaking questions on issues.

Check out the interview on this link:

Charlie Rose Special Edition: The Candidates - Charlie Rose

What are your thoughts? Would any of you guys consider him as a candidate worthy of your vote? Click on this next link below to place your vote in our poll:

Saltwater Fishing Lures Forum

Best, Bliz

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CaptDom

"In this country, at a bad convemience store, you have over 50 choices of chewing gum. You have 2 for president...."

I do want to point out that as an Italian American, my Nonnona(great grandma) immigrated to the US from Italy in 1896, and was able to raise 12 kids and pass on a great future for her descendants. The melting pot what was made this country great, gave us it's identity in the fledgling years.

Sure, somewhere along the way it was trampled on and abused like an awful lot of great priveleges and rights our forefathers set up in our Constitution. Unfortunately, it seems the constitution is used more against us these days, especially in our criminal justice systems.

The declaration of Independence needs to be revived and used again, a few words tweaked to have relevancy, and then "implemented" by a group of American Pioneers....... I think that is the only way we are going to see any real change....a major upheaval and change of the way things are done. The constitution was made to allow for changes as humans changed in time, problem is we have lost site of that. If we can't effect change through peaceable means, the constitution mandates that we do it another way.

Our form of Democracy is not a true form, in that we all don't get 1 voice for one vote, we use the Electoral college. There has never been one single government in the history of "civilized" man that has not failed and undergone radical changes, sometimes many in the course of its identity as a nation. Who are we to kid ourselves that ours isn't gonna fall prey to the same thing, as history shows a funny way of repeating itself over and over??? A civil war in this country is not too far a stretch, and might even create the impetus to effect positive change. Even the most fertile of ground needs to be burned now and then for future yield.

The lack of caring, registered, informed voters in this country is appalling, and is what I think to be the actual cause of most of our problems. Everyone, and I mean everyone, is ultimately concerned with themselves first, then others. It is too easy to have everything spoon fed to us as a society...I am guilty of this myself, and would seriously question anyone who claimed otherwise. The reason is from the very first quote by Bill Maher, and my allusion to civil unrest as the catalyst for change; 2 stinking non choices for pres.....the lesser of two evils is never a choice!

It has been done this way for so long now unchanged, that only a radical effort will shake the foundation enough to illict some common sense and management of our serious problems facing us as a nation.

One other thing, our fate as humans is not different from that of the earth we inhabit. Our global environmental issues may force the change much, much sooner if we don't do something soon.

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The bird feeder sums it all up. Keep on giving and people will keep
on taking.

CaptDom

The problem is no matter how many smart people on either coast got behind him, the dummies in the heartland(the proud bush states) have already been told there are only 2 choices, and they believe that to their very core. Even a very, very rich guy like Perot, barely got a few percentage points with all of his TV exposure...... If he aint on TV all the time, he ain't gonna get elected.

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BlizLures

Most of the media wants us to believe that... or at least to resign to that mindset. What's sad about the media, is that it's original mission used to be to inform people, where today, it's mission is to indoctrinate them. At what point will people stand up and say ENOUGH... it begs the answer to Brads original question:

Are we that stupid?... the media thinks we are.

Radical change needs to place in our Nation, and it needs to begin in the minds of each of us. People need to rally together for positive change to be possible.

What's bizarre is that many of us are on the same page, ... but in different books. There is consensus on many of the issues, and talented and brilliant people who can solve them, but the majority of those who share the same sentiments are too afraid to stand up, and come together as a constituency, and thus, the status quo prevails. Whether my vote counts or not is not as relevant to the fact that I still have a choice! and a vote!...

If enough of us would wake up and vote our conscience rather than allowing ourselves to be herded by the media, or minsets placed in us by them, things would indeed change.

All I know is that things aren't getting better, and the media isn't helping America.

On the contrary, it is tearing us apart.

When is enough... enough?

None of us should ever surrender our vote to the media, or public opinion.

Too many of our boys gave their lives for us to hold a ballot.

It sickens me to think of how many people lack the common sense or regard for what they are holding in their hands on election day, and the precious price that was paid for it.

Those who don't show up to vote represent the spineless wimps, casualties of conscience, and other countless victims of the media.

Vote the primaries, and vote the election whether or not you think your vote counts. And remember, it's up to us to defend our own convictions regardless of what we see going on around us.

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CaptDom

I think enough was enough somewhere around 1975....

Bliz, great points, and in many ways mirrors of my sentiments.

Unfortunately, I firmly believe that violence or serious civil upheaval at the very minimum is the only way to achieve the change. The distribution of wealth touched on in many other topics but especially in the immigrant issue will prevent even a unanimous and total effort by every middle class, halfway intelligent legal US citezen of voting age. Money taints the very core of everything political in this country. Perot had it right when he stated that the simple answer to many of our domestic issues was money, and nothing else. He was more interested in economically fixing this country, which would indeed take a huge strain off of many of the countries problems, in fact almost all. I remember him saying he had no political experience and that his prowess as a businessman should be the only criteria the American public should judge him by. He flat out admitted he would need a true brain trust of talented cabinet members and advisors to asisst him. Despite his many other shortcomings, I feel he was 100% correct in that our money problems are the root of most of our evil.

Everytime there is a tragic earthquake, tidal wave, or other international/global disaster, we are the first to send our help in the form of people and money.

Whenever humans screw up royaly and create civil problems like AIDS epidemic in Africa for example, we are the first to send aid in the form of people and money.

Whenever an animal species is threatened by human encroachment or pressure, we are the only nation to send aid in the form of money and people.

Whenever terroism or opression of some foreign peoples' basic human rights are called into question, we are the first to send aid in the form of money, and especially people; usually military in these cases.....

Were there any major allies people or monies sent over en masse for a relief effort after 9/11?

Were there any British or other European countries versions of Farm Aid concerts, or any rlief efforts en masse to help the families struck by the hurricanes of 05, or the tornados of 2003??

Has any of those same European countries paid back even one single dime of the bailout money we debted to help them rebuild after WWII, never mind the interest after 50 plus years???

I say we need to stop the giving as well, but how about taking it one step further and reclaiming all the money taken from us by the EU, while their new Euro kicks the shit out of the dollar daily???!!!!????

I still say unfortunately lots of bad things would have to occur to correct the path we have chosen for ourselves....Scary to say the least, in a country where 1/4 of the nation is armed or better.

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BlizLures

I fear that this type of solution would only further weaken America.
Just look at what it is going on now over in Iraq.

I think that enough will be enough when actual change becomes the revolution.

What I liked about the Huckabee interview was that this guy spoke of solutions, rather than dodging the tough questions that started being thrown at him about 20 minutes into the interview. We need doers of change rather than complainers, as revolution would destroy America being as most other nations look at us as imperialists, and any chink in the armor that shows our vulnerability would be quickly exploited by the many countries that pray for our demise.

Tough times call for innovative solutions.

I heard that Huckabee just hired on the key person who ran Ronald Reagan's campaign.

If he picks up any steam in the polls, and can get on the ticket, he has my vote.

I liked his approach on immigration, as well as a VAT designed to do away with the IRS, and U.S. citizens having to file tax returns each year. By imposing taxes based on consumption, even the illegals wouldn't be exempted from their fair share of taxes. He also has some great ideas on the other issues that are facing our Nation as well...

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